are the big challenges. i would like to build the kind of relationship where we have continued and direct communication and, as a result of that communication, we have swift and immediate action on the part of the administration. >> it's my understanding that -- maybe you can clarify this, mr. miller. it was after the interim, that may of 2011, that mr. neely actually went on several trips after that report came out. i'm talking about two trips to hawaii, saigon, trip to guam, napa valley and several other places. is that correct? >> that is correct, unfortunately. >> that is -- all right. mr. tangherlini, the -- you talk about a total, i guess, of 11 regions, if you count washington. and this was seven, eight, nine -- or eight, nine, ten and 11, i guess.